tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6668594987436792920.post6290675878300062407..comments2023-07-05T08:17:21.505-04:00Comments on Getting to the Point: Less Yelling! More Listening!Fr. Denis Lemieuxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01049723287624178155noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6668594987436792920.post-66368033481646519672013-02-01T13:50:25.751-05:002013-02-01T13:50:25.751-05:00I enjoyed your post! <3
My page :: AdalinaI enjoyed your post! <3<br /><i>My page</i> :: <b><a href="http://www.agodwiki.com/index.php?title=User:RobynMurr" rel="nofollow">Adalina</a></b>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6668594987436792920.post-65570652762847252422013-01-24T16:02:58.768-05:002013-01-24T16:02:58.768-05:00Sorry to be bombarding you with responses all at o...Sorry to be bombarding you with responses all at once, but it's now or never, and I hate 'never'! I would have to say, though, that in this one you have left me a bit befuddled!<br />I do try to avoid straw men - they are the bane of our time, I believe! But I really don't know what you mean by naturalism, determinism, etc., or how this connects up for you with questions of dialogue and truth. I am confused!Fr. Denis Lemieuxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01049723287624178155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6668594987436792920.post-91351480129947312002013-01-20T00:55:17.670-05:002013-01-20T00:55:17.670-05:00Even if the fundamental choices themselves are not...Even if the fundamental choices themselves are not under discussion, the search for an answer to a specific question becomes a process in which, through listening to the other, both sides can obtain purification and enrichment. Thus this search can also mean taking common steps towards the one truth, even if the fundamental choices remain unaltered.<br /><br />I read CS lewis book about Miracles sometime back and I have been thinking of it a lot the past few days: "unless human reasoning is valued, no science can be true". I love CS Lewis, I do. All those images-the lock in the key, the stone awaiting sculpting, the red hot metal awaiting its mold. How cool is that - we are being prepared for a destiny already prepared for us. What a great Christian apologist.<br /> Sometimes though, I struggle with his ideas in the same way as with the holy Father. (It is easier for me to struggle with CS Lewis than the pope). But your postings the last few days have sort of drawn it all again. So, this is my attempt at dialogue. <br /> The problem for me is deeper than dialogue though. It is that view of naturalism and how we limit it for each other. Is naturalism the same as determinism? We can't keep consructing fallacies for each other- where the wrong option is presented unfavorably and sometimes incorretly defined against the right option which he hopes will seem more reasonable against the straw man.<br /> No one seems to address the fact that some events and some systems (even principles) are not completely explainable, despite being natural. For example, no one disputes weather is completely natural, but while weather events can be pedicted to varying degress (I think of Fr David)- it's not always accurate. It is impossible even in principle to explain every facet of weather (or faith and morals) because they are just too complex, chaotic and probabilistic.<br /> So, in dialogue-at least inside myself first,I have to learn entertain other options- somehow find a space between extreme determinism and extreme supernaturalism.<br /> Please keep praying for me.<br /> Catherinenoreply@blogger.com