tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6668594987436792920.post5662304469614101088..comments2023-07-05T08:17:21.505-04:00Comments on Getting to the Point: Where We Learn to Be HumanFr. Denis Lemieuxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01049723287624178155noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6668594987436792920.post-67155346424477426242013-01-24T16:12:17.209-05:002013-01-24T16:12:17.209-05:00Sorry to be so long responding - my life has been ...Sorry to be so long responding - my life has been really hectic lately.<br />Well of course marriage is in trouble already. But... ready divorce attacks marriage as a permanent commitment, but couples getting married are not usually planning to get divorced at their wedding. Common-law relationships attack marriage by simulating the life-style withotu the commitment... but a common-law couple can still get married at some point. Contraception attacks marriage by making it infertile... but a contracepting couple can repent and stop contracepting.<br />A same-sex couple, by definition, cannot enter into marriage, because nothing they can do together will create a child, and so the a necessary essential reality and purpose of marriage is not and cannot exist in that relationship.<br />I realize we have huge disagreement about all of the above that I jsut wrote. Marriage is, of course, erotic - nothing I wrote implies otherwise, nor do I condemn erotic love (how could I, since the Church doesn't!). But erotic love must exist in a larger framework, and that is the call to fruitful self-gift.<br />Yes of course my opposition to it is rooted in my opposition to homosexual intercourse! I believe it to be a sin, and the reason it is a sin is that it absolutely and utterly separates the sexual act from the context of pro-creation.<br />What do you mean by reflexive opposition, anyhow? Do you think I just think gay sex is 'yucky' and so am opposed to it? Because I have given reason upon reason for my opinions and views, and the Church has given these reasons and more at greater length than is possible in a blog format. I oppose it, and strongly, but how is it 'reflexive'? Surely not just because you disagree with my arguemtns?Fr. Denis Lemieuxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01049723287624178155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6668594987436792920.post-77036386637561142652013-01-21T07:38:16.239-05:002013-01-21T07:38:16.239-05:00Father Denis,
I read somewere that 2/3 of all US ...Father Denis,<br /><br />I read somewere that 2/3 of all US Catholics are single, many with children. Divorce rates in the US have improved- in 2010 only 38 % resulted in divorce after 10 years. The average number of kids in a family is now 2. <br /><br /> <br />Let's face it - marriage, as you define it, is already in trouble. So, why would you seek marriage?<br /><br />Because marriage is a platform from which to love. It says we are family in a way no other word does. It simply allows sam sex couplesto marry the person they love , to establish and protect a family and to make a lifetime commitment in the way that other couples do.<br /><br />I do not think that same sex marriage is any more erotic than opposite sex marriage. Is your opposition to the sex people engage in? Surely, you understand that sex just strengthens a mature relationship- it does not define it. Do you think of heterosexual marriage as erotic?<br /><br />If the connection between sex and children were "irrevocably sundered" what would happen? Well, maybe what God wanted to have happen...we are all- gay or not...we are all God's children.<br /><br />I don't think aowing same sex marriage declares human life as an accidental by product of sex. It think our culture has declred that all already.<br /><br />Same sex marriage just takes sex out of the equation. It is a way to focus on marriage and family itself and what that means. <br /><br />So ,no I still see your agrument as reflexive opposition.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6668594987436792920.post-48215293891615874662013-01-14T16:33:50.339-05:002013-01-14T16:33:50.339-05:00Homosexual marriage changes the very definition of...Homosexual marriage changes the very definition of what a marriage is. Marriage in a civil sense has been a matter of providing a stable institution whereby the children created in sexual intercourse can be assured of being raised in a stable and assured fashion by the people who created them. Marriage is now about society giving approval to certain forms of affection and erotic attachment.<br />Actually, marriage becomes incoherent in the advent of same-sex marriage. Nobody suggests that siblings who are fond of each other be allowed to marry. Bowling partners do not marry, even if they are a really good team and get along well. So it is not about affection, but about sexual union. But why does society need an institution for sexual unions? Once the intrinsic connection of sex and children is irrevocably sundered (as it is not by contraception), then what is the point of marriage as a civil institution. Why should society care who goes to bed with whom?<br />Meanwhile, by solemnly declaring that same-sex relationships are exactly the same kind of thing as opposite-sex ones, we have declared that human life and human being is an accidental by-product of sex. The essence of sex is either the pleasure or the affectionate pair bond. The creation of a new human being is an irrelevant afterthought to an orgasm.<br />And that is threat homosexual marriage poses to the family, to society, to humanity. You may disagree, but surely you can see that there is more here than reflexive opposition?Fr. Denis Lemieuxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01049723287624178155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6668594987436792920.post-21871732881993715732013-01-13T18:50:42.340-05:002013-01-13T18:50:42.340-05:00Just wondering...how is homesexual marriage akin t...Just wondering...how is homesexual marriage akin to divorce and fornication? It seems they are just the opposite. <br /><br />I really do not understand why homosexual unions/family are seen as such a big threat to the family. What exactly is the scary thing? What exactly is the threat? Or does it just feel really, really wrong to have an opposite opinion?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6668594987436792920.post-23822306795789225812013-01-13T15:35:22.398-05:002013-01-13T15:35:22.398-05:00We just need to keep praying and do our best to sh...We just need to keep praying and do our best to show forth Christ to the world. The rest is up to God.Fr. Denis Lemieuxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01049723287624178155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6668594987436792920.post-12087035969682911792013-01-12T22:36:52.313-05:002013-01-12T22:36:52.313-05:00Very good article!
In this world where so many fi...Very good article!<br /><br />In this world where so many find individualism as their key to life. (we used to call it narcissism - and before that - sin...) this article confronts that attitude well!<br />Pastor DtPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14935097095652034259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6668594987436792920.post-54895501907277964272013-01-12T11:24:08.962-05:002013-01-12T11:24:08.962-05:00Father,
And look at family life in America today....Father,<br /><br />And look at family life in America today. How can a Nation survive like this? So much divorces, fornication, homosexual ''marriage'' being legalized, etc. One hundred years ago this never would have even been imagined. I just don't see how we can keep surviving as a Nation the way we are. Holy Family, pray for us...<br /><br />Hannah~Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com